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We can channel money to subsidise fuel to improve power supply — Afuape

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Speaking exclusively with the News Editor, Nigerian NewsDirect, Uthman Salami, the former Commissioner for Local Government and Chieftaincy Affairs, who is the current All Progressives Congress (APC) Candidate for the Federal House of  Representatives, Abeokuta South, Honourable Afolabi Moruf Afuape speaks on some of his track records whilst in office. He also speaks about some of the things he will do, once elected as a Federal Lawmaker. 

Expatiating further, he believes Nigerians should jettison the debate over a Muslim/Muslim ticket for competence and capacity. Hon. Afuape who’s fondly called ‘Afoo’ by her supporters also believes the government should take the bold step of removing subsidy payment on imported fuel, saying that such payments would continue to drag the development of the critical sector of the country further down the drain. Excerpts:

Many House of Representatives from Abeokuta South but only a few have been able to leave an indelible impact on the people of the constituency. What are you bringing differently on board?

I will not say they have not done their best but there’s always a better way of getting things done. In their way, they did their best. The situation they were in when they contested, you may not be able to compare to what we have now. So, to me, there must be an improvement in the ways things were done.

As a human being, if you set a target for yourself and you can achieve that target, you must try to improve on that target. Look at our young lady who has broken the world record in athletics. There was a standard before as someone had won the champion of that particular competition earlier before she broke it.

But no matter what they have done, I want to commend them, for one to even run in an election, to win and be successful and come back, you must have done one or two things.

Things are changing in Nigeria, we need to be very proactive, and we need somebody that understands the nitty-gritty of Nigeria. When people come out to tell us, maybe because of time duration, they can do this, they can do that, I tend to ask them when you were given a mandate, you knew the number of years you were to spend. If you are a  brilliant student and you were given three hours to write a paper but you could not finish within three hours. This means you’re not a brilliant student.

We are going to have a four years term, God willing. I’ve been thinking of some bills to propose. The pure function of a lawmaker is to make laws, no more, no less. All other activities are secondary.

The major thing is lawmaking. What are we doing? Regarding unemployment? There are laws guiding us. What are we doing regarding Old Age benefits? What are we doing regarding our Health Scheme? 

I strongly believe that if you don’t deregulate the oil sector, Nigeria cannot move forward. I’m an economist. The government does not have any business in business.

What is expected of a government is to give a policy framework that will make a business thrive. So if we keep on spending huge sums of money on subsidies, and we are expecting a miracle to happen, we’ll be wasting our time as a country.

For instance, Is oil as important as electricity? Electricity covered the entire homes of Nigeria. Some people don’t need electricity. Of course, we need to fuel our cars. Some people have five/ten cars. Some people only need electricity, such as a barber.

We need electricity for daily survival. Can’t we channel the money we are using to subsidise fuel to improve power by providing 24 hours electricity to Nigerians? If we do that, our business will thrive.

All these problems were created by a weak Foreign exchange, today the Dollar is 650, and tomorrow it is 700. What are you expecting? We are not a producing nation. What we are importing is not up to what we exporting.

Once we start producing more, unemployment will go down, social vices, kidnapping, everything will go down, and you get electricity. You can put CCTV cameras everywhere and the security situation can be resolved. Somebody must be able to sit down and say okay, let me propose a bill in this direction.

Isn’t the issue of mistrust between the government and the people the major thing but not the subsidy? 

When we started using mobile phones, I bought mine for about N58,000. That was 20 years ago. N58,000 then is more than 580,000 now. That’s the amount I bought my sim card then.

They were being charged per second. Then the competition started, and people started investing in these sims to be free of charge. They will call. They will say we are giving you bonuses. They are doing this. That is the essence of competition.

That is the essence of deregulation. If we deregulate the oil sector the price will initially go up. People will suffer a little bit. But the price will eventually come down. What I’m saying in essence is that if you stop this, you have enough money for people who are clamoring for higher wages.

The last time I checked, in the first quarter of this year, we spent upwards of one trillion on subsidies. Trillions will play a lot of roles for us. A lot of hospitals will be built and ASUU’s strike will be a thing of the past. There’s nowhere in the world where they’re selling fuel at the rate we are selling it in Nigeria.

The government doesn’t have any business in paying for subsidies. Let this thing be determined through the price system. Demand and supply. If this happens, a lot of business people will join in providing the services. if you have the opportunity to have good service.

Yeah, if I’m a barber for instance, and I know I will only have service for three hours, I will tell people, I’m about to open from 7 to 10. I will face it and after that, I switch off my light and I go home. I put something in the freezer. Let me freeze for five hours. I will have switched it off. We continue to manage ourselves.

Because we virtually have everything for free, we are not doing what is expected of us. Some people will bypass the electricity meter. This will prevent the electricity distribution company from ascertaining what is needed for the volume of power required in that area. It won’t be known. When you switch on your Air Conditioning, no one will know it’s reading.

Nigerians are too fraudulent. All of us need to change things. We are all constantly blaming the government whereas the government will not do everything. We need to change our value system. We need to stop worshiping people with ill-gotten wealth.

We cannot continue like that. So we need a legislative arm of government that is also independent and will be able to put the executive arm on its toes and say; this is the way Nigeria should go. And Nigerians appreciate things. Things may be difficult but when they get the result, they will praise you.

A leader will take followers to where they don’t want to be. You have to damn the consequences of it and we must be able to devise what we are bringing on board. What Nigeria needs is food on its tables. What others want is to be able to move freely without being harassed. They want a better economy.

No country will employ everybody. But what we do in Nigeria is that the government is the biggest employer of labor. It’s not supposed to be. We need to encourage small-scale enterprises and industries. One industry can employ about five people; they’re not totally behind this.

How many people live in the government in the developed world? Something should not come free. If it is free, you cannot get results. I agree that primary and secondary school can be free but tertiary education should not be free.

But you can introduce a bill such as a Student Loan and whenever you start to work, you will pay,but can we give loans when we don’t even have the data of Nigerians? Of course, this is improving through the identification number, which cannot be traced to Nigerians. This means we are gradually improving in data collection.

Let students get loans and they will value their education. This is one of the reasons we keep experiencing strikes now and then. And what are we doing? If you don’t invest in education? How will you have the opportunity to carry out research? and University is about research.

Even in both social science and science, there must be an improvement. People must discover new things. If you don’t invest. If you don’t do thorough research, you cannot research because it costs a lot of money.

 While reading through your profile, it is boldly written that you were an award-winning lecturer before your sojourn into politics. Do you think the 5-month ASUU strike is justifiable?

I won’t respond to this as a yes or no answer. I will give you some analysis. This is unfortunate. Honestly, what ASUU is asking for is something that can improve the standard of education in Nigeria. My worry is always that if you strike for five years, we still come to terms one day. I want to blame both ASUU and the government. No matter what, if you strike for five years, you will still come to terms one day.

This means you should be able to come to terms. Why waste people’s lives for six months? These are things that harbour criminality and make people engage in what they ought not to engage in. I do tell people, especially when they ask for wages as filing data for more wages, I just laugh, because, to me, it has never solved any problem in this country. If you asked for a wage increase today before you know inflation will eat up the money.

In Nigeria, we provide everything for ourselves. We provide for children to go to private school. Most of us want to go to a private secondary school or a private University; We want to provide our home with water by drilling a borehole; We want to provide housing for ourselves.

All these things may not be affordable for an average individual. If the government had a housing scheme for us, once you get a job after graduation, you should have access to three-bedroom flats and be paying installments. The parent will not be under pressure to be looking for money to build a house.

Nigeria wants to buy land, you’re the one to buy blocks. For how long? One will continue struggling. Abroad, what do they do? they live on credit.

If you do have a car, you buy a bus ticket. You can move from one area to another without any hindrance. All of us want free things in the country and anything too cheap will not be good.

We want free education,free University education. We don’t want to pay Secondary and Primary school education, yes, as a government, we can provide,but when it comes to higher institutions, people should be ready to pay.

How many Nigerians attend University for free abroad? I mean, you pay for it. A lot of Nigerians pay a lot of money for the education of their wards abroad.

A lot of us go for medical checkups abroad in April. You will discover that most of the Doctors that will attend to you are Nigerians and Africans. So what are they lacking here? Equipment? No more, no less. If they had such types of equipment and were well remunerated, there would not be a brain drain.

So we need to look at some bills that can help Nigerians solve these issues. Since we know the problems, we should get a law that will guide against these loopholes. These are the things we have in mind to propose.

We need a new constitution entirely if you look at what we have now. unique. All these amendments might not see the light of the day, Almost all the sections of the constitution are under discussion to be amended. If the constitution requires such a huge amendment why not call for a new constitution? and this could be done in one year or one legislative term.

We will be praying that whoever will lead us will be forward-looking to be able to achieve more as such, everyone will have to work together to achieve this. If you provide brilliant ideas, Nigerians have a way of compensating you. Of course, when I get there, the situation will determine what kind of approach to use and I will make a huge impact.

Nigerians, especially the supporters of the politicians, expect more from their leaders. So beyond the proposition of bills. What are other things you will do when you get there, especially in areas of empowerment?

My understanding of empowerment is a service to humanity, which I’m used to. I am not going to lead them without empowering them, not because of what I will get from going there. That’s what I’m used to. I cannot wake up in a day without seeing people around me. And when they come with one problem or another, they go back with smiles. These are parts of my life. I don’t have problems doing that.

If it takes me to get extra money for them, I will do it.  I’m not rich but thank God, I’m a comfortable person. And I’m not the type that wants the world for myself. I don’t believe in too much money. I believe in being comfortable. This will be about my fourth political appointment. one I just finished now.

I was Secretary to the Local Government (SLG), I was Special Adviser to the Hon. Speaker in Abuja, Commissioner first time, and Commissioner second time.

And my followers have been increasing daily. And that I must have been doing something different from other people. So, I will not change my style. That is my style, empowering them, they know. I don’t even use that to campaign for them. They know this. They know that when I get there, the empowerment will flow.

But what will make me different from others is the bill. Any idiot can empower people once you have money.  But your intellectual ability to distinguish yourself from others by proposing bills that will impact positively on the lives of Nigerians on the floor of the House is most important to me,that is my target.

I’m used to all these grassroots movements. I don’t even have any problem with all this. I don’t even need to be told. I know what to do and they have confidence in me. If I tell them I don’t have it, they know I don’t have it. They believe in me because I will never lie to them.

I’ve been able to create a niche for myself in that aspect. I don’t think my followers will feel bothered about that at all,but the one that I think will make a mark for me and the whole world to feel my impact is the bills.

All these empowerments, I won’t put them on the internet for people to celebrate me but the breakthrough of any bill should be my name.

Yes.and if I was a lecturer and needed to research and I cannot do something that will show my intellectual ability that means, there is no basis for me going into that office.

Currently, the inflation rate is over 18%. Naira to Dollars is above N700. Do you think your party deserves another chance with the level of economic indices in the country? 

Yes, and I will say yes because what we are experiencing in Nigeria today is a global problem. It’s not peculiar to Nigeria. There is no single country now where prices of things are not going up. Tell me? virtually none because that is the way things are now. this is the way things are, nobody prays for it. Nobody wants such things but that is the reality.

The only areas where I think the government could work are the issue of security and discovery and this issue of insecurity, they said cannot be fought with arms. We can fight with technology but without electricity, we cannot do that.

That is why the next government needs to focus heavily on how to provide electricity that will supply 24 hours of uninterrupted power to Nigerians. Once that is done 50 per cent  of Nigeria’s problem is solved. When people know that if you commit any crime, you can be traced. People will run away from committing crimes. If you do, and you don’t go scot-free, you will not be committing a crime.

Somebody met the price, maybe about six Naira? They got to about sixty-something Naira, the percentage wise, you will discover that we are still better.

I’m not saying we have gotten the best for Nigeria. By things to be done better, I want to say this administration can still perform better than the PDP regime and we can still get better things done through the person we want to entrust to Nigeria. He has proven himself in Lagos. When you see Babatunde Fashola, you give it back to Asiwaju who discovered him.

On Asiwaju, so many people believe that APC has shot itself in the foot by throwing weight behind Muslim/Muslim tickets. What are your takes on this?

If we continue like this, Nigeria cannot move forward. If you think of competence, it is in the ability to deliver. I don’t discussion on Muslim/Muslim ticket can help solve our problems as a country. Under the Muslim/Christian ticket, Bandits went to church to kill people.

They went to the mosque to kill several others,but we are saying let the people who could do the job, take over. Is there a family who has Muslims with Christians? Some Nigerians don’t even belong to either. What will be their stake in this if we are talking about Muslim/Muslim tickets?

If we can get the best first eleven for the National team should we say they should not and bring on board people who cannot perform? What we should focus on is who can deliver for Nigeria. Asiwaju we can assess him based on what he did in Lagos.

Atiku was Vice President for 8 years, and we can as well read things about Olusegun Obasanjo whom he directly works with. Obi man Anambra for 8 years. Let’s compare their antecedents. You will give it to Asiwaju. He is not only a politician, he is highly intelligent,but Atiku is older than him. For Obi, Where’s the platform for winning? We know in this part of the world, you still need a party that has structure all over the country to help you to win.

Labour Party doesn’t even have any elected position in Ogun State at all. So if they don’t have one, what is going to be a miracle? It is a race between Asiwaju and Atiku. Recently, Osun won Elections with both Christians/Christian tickets. Why not leave religion out of this? Even in PDP, there is a quota system in Nigeria and a zoning system in the constitution of their party.

If it comes to the North 8 years, let it come to the South. Buhari, From the Northern Part of Nigeria, is about to wrap up his tenure and you still want to retain the power to the Northern part again. That’s what the PDP is presenting to us but no one is saying that. What they are seeing is a Muslim/Muslim ticket. For me, what’s important is who can deliver. Who can rescue Nigeria?

Former Governor of Ogun State, Ibikunle Amosun, and the current Governor, Dapo Abiodun are not working together which is almost similar to what happened in Osun State. Don’t you think what happened in Osun State might repeat itself in Ogun State?

Well, we will continue to beg our people,we need everyone on board, but because one is not around, a congregation will not be full to the brim is a conjecture meant to scare each other. In the last dispensation, all their people worked against us. Yet, God proved himself to us,and we won the election. Ibikunle Amosun did not work for Dapo Abiodun. Akinlade did not work for Dapo Abiodun, Ladi and all of them worked together yet we were vindicated,we won the election.

At the time, GNI was not with us, but he’s with us today and a lot of people have joined the party. Nevertheless, we want everyone to salvage this party and we want to appeal to our people that all of them are important in this project. Like my former boss, Ibikunle Amosun earlier pledged, we will work for Yoruba Lokan.

We will work for Bola Ahmed Tinubu, but ,what will be the essence of working for Tinubu and then taking the state to that of the opposition? All the issues will be resolved. The two of them are my bosses,though they may have their issues, it is not more personal than political.

Almost four years down the lane, what could you say was the greatest achievement of the administration under the Ministry you held?

I want to appreciate the good people of Ogun State who allowed us to serve them. Without the opportunity given to Dapo Abiodun, I wouldn’t be able to have served the people in this capacity. This office exposes me to a lot of things. We have improved the way we select the Obaship in the State. A lot of issues that I’ve created over the years, we have been able to resolve.

Once we have a vacancy, we fill it with immediate effect by following due process. We have been able to come up with the new Obas law. We have been meeting regularly and engaging them on how to make things done and they have been my searchlight. Telling me, the path to follow especially the Awujale of Ijebuland, Oba Sikiru Adetona, the present Chairman of the Council of Oba, Akarigbo of Remoland, Oba Babatunde Ajayi, my father here, the Alake of Egbaland, Oba Adedotun Gbadebo as well as my big brother from Yewaland, Olu of Ilaro, Oba Kehinde Olugbenle.

In terms of Local Government administration, I had a target, which I was not able to complete. Initially, when I came on board, I had hoped to have Local Government projects in the 236 wards of Ogun State,but we have been able to achieve 156. I intended to continue. During the caretakers’ period, we did a minimum of three projects in different wards within each Local Government and all put together, we have been able to have 156 projects.

But the government promised to help us because he has been the one that helps us with the funding since funding has been a major problem for the Local Government and we have not been able to have access to money because of the dwindling resources. Since it’s going to be a grant, there’s little we can do. I know the government has approved but we are looking for funding. If we can get the funding, we can make the target a reality.

What we have left is less than 100. So if we can do maybe another  3/5 projects in all the wards in each of the Local Governments, we will surpass the target. This was my target but I’ve achieved 156. Although I’ve resigned from my appointment, the government is continuous. Whoever comes after me, will continue from there.

When people talk about Local Government autonomy and funding, I do tell them, I’ve been here for the past two years or more,but we have not received any allocation that will be sufficient enough to take care of the local government. The first line charges, we have never been so lucky to have it. We have been living hand to hand.

When someone did a paid advert saying that we collected so much but we squandered it. I went to my record and I saw the man had a brilliant submission but not a clever one,and I explained then that what he claimed we earned is almost the same thing as my record but he never thought of the salaries. We have never owned salaries. I’ve been owing salaries to primary school teachers, Local Government staffers, the traditional rulers, Local Government pensioners, etc.

I have challenged him to tabulate the expenditure, place it with our earnings and report it back to the people of Ogun State. Till now, I’ve not received any feedback from him. Just because we want to be Governor doesn’t mean we should be giving ourselves wrong information. We must be able to put the record straight.

I challenged that by saying if he were a Governor, he would not be paying salaries? We have thrived in the Local Government in the state but we are not there yet. If I could get the 236 projects, I could come out openly, with a shoulder-high expectation that yes, I’ve achieved what any other government has not achieved in the history of the country.

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How FG can attract Foreign Investors – CIS Boss

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A thoroughbred multi-dimensional professional with over three-decade experience in the Nigerian Financial Market and President and Chairman of Council , Chartered Institute of Stockbrokers (CIS), Mr Oluwole Adeosun, FCS, in this interview, X-rays the state of the Nigerian Capital Market and offers suggestions on how the Federal Government can make the market competitive through constructive engagement with the regulators and operators.

Can you comment on the historic rally on NGX after the swearing -in of President Bola Tinubu ?

The Stock Market has been a barometer to measure developments in any economy, and the conclusion of the electoral process in Nigeria encapsulated in the inauguration of a new government is a major milestone that will excite any securities market. It is therefore not unusual for our market to spontaneously react to the positive development by way of the spike in the prices of the securities. The policy pronouncements, on the day of the inauguration, were also seen as a silver bullet that raised the consciousness of the stakeholders to the opportunities in the securities market.

In his inaugural Speech, President Bola Tinubu said there would be unified exchange rate. How will this impact the activities in the capital market?

That is one of the urgent policy corrections that the Nigerian Capital Market has been canvassing for in recent years. The wide gap between the official and parallel market rates is an anomaly which creates room for so many market malpractices. By creating a more efficient and transparent foreign exchange management system, the unified rate policy will make the market more competitive, make the currencies more easilyaccessible to manufacturers and other end users, and improve the bottom line for our quoted companies.

The transparency that will evolve from determining the rate will boost the integrity of the exercise which is expected to excite foreign investors to make a return to our securities market. There cannot be a perfect unified rate. But if the margin between the official rate and other windows is within 3 per cent range, it is normal. But the supply side of the forex has to be addressed as a basis to ensure that forex scarcity will not hamper the success of exchange rate unification in the medium and long run.

How can the Federal Government deploy the market to achieve the 6 % projected growth of the Nigerian Gross Domestic Product (GDP)?

That question will be thoroughly discussed and answered at the forthcoming CIS National Workshop coming up in Abuja on July 27, 2023. Suffice to state, for now, that the capital market is a very effective tool for actualizing a broad based Public Private Partnership strategy which we recommend for President Bola Tinubu and the various State Governors.

As at May 29, 2023 the Market Capitalization in the Nigerian stock market was just a little fraction of the country’s GDP, but that is a paradox, because the market has actually shown over time, that with adequate institutional support, it can significantly contribute to the economic transformation of the country. The capital market was used to transform the Nigerian banking system into the multi trillion industry that it is today, and to provide critical liquidity for governments in the country. The market is effective at pooling long term capital in the economy. Listing on the stock exchanges also enable large multinationals and MSMEs alike to raise massive capital with long term payback and very low cost. The commodity ecosystem is another revenue centre that the Federal Government can exploit. This is why the government should engage the operators in the ecosystem to know that is required for them to operate optimally.

Are there policy measures that the government should put in place to encourage both foreign and domestic investors to participate more in the capital markets ?

The role of government in businesses worldwide is to provide an enabling environment that will allow productive enterprises to flourish. By enabling environment, we mean rule of law, provision of adequate infrastructure etc. The government must create a savings friendly economic environment, and then, continuously work towards improving the Ease of Doing Business ranking of the country, to make it a competitive investment destination.

Tax policies should be reviewed, to encourageinvestments and not the other way round. For example, the recently introduced Capital Gains Tax will discourage high volume investments, and should be removed for now, particularly in view of the fragile nature of our economy and capital market. We need to encourage more investments.

The government should listen to us more; have more consultations with the Capital market in policy formulation. Steps should be taken to extend trading liquidity to the stock market, as is done in the advanced countries. Our pension funds should, as a matter of national interest, invest a higher proportion of their funds in the equity market to provide a stable foundation that motivates other high net worths to invest over the long term; and the Central Bank of Nigeria should pay more attention to the stock market, allow bank stocks to be included in margin lending portfolios being the most active and liquid stocks and encourage banks to partner more with Stockbroking firms. We cannot still be living in the past and be looking forward to a better future.

Is there a deliberate plan by the Institute to attract youths into the financial market ?

The youths represent our topmost priority area. Tertiary institutions and schools generally represent the first point of our annual capital market literacy drive. We also have the Inter-School Capital Market Quiz competition and recently, Essay Competition. We undertake Career Talk programs in so many institutions every year. As a matter of fact, we have gone to the extent of awarding the CIS Diploma scholarship to quite a number of young, indigent Nigerian citizens and many of them have responded positively.

When will the e-library of the Institute become operational ?

Very soon. We are currently putting the finishing touches to the library room, having procured the necessary tools for its operation. The unveiling will be announced before the early in the third quarter.

How would you advise investors under the current business environment ?

This is an excellent time to invest, with the guarantee of democracy in the country. The market will grow as the policies of the new government take shape. Having said that, please ensure that you always consult a qualified and licensed Stockbroker to guide your investment decisions. You may visit the CIS or SEC websites for the lists of qualified operators, or the websites of the various securities trading platforms. Investors should contact their stockbrokers for effective investment advice. Investment is a trade off of risk and return. An investor can make money in all seasons with appropriate investment advice.

There is still a knowledge gap in understanding the benefits of investment through the capital market. What are plans in the pipeline to deepen investor education?

We have a lot of plans. However, it must be understood that Capital Market Literacy drive is expensive. That is the reason we continue to request for grants: From government, market regulators, quoted companies and the general public. As you are aware, we launched CIS Academy last year and in just a small space of time, they have done so much in imparting skills to the larger financial industry; an example being the recent joint training Programme with Lagos Business School on Board Leadership in the Securities and Investments industry. We have so much to do, but the financial capacity is limited.

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Online voting will promote democracy and civic engagement — Founder TECHmIT, Adepoju

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Oluwaseun David Adepoju is a creative technologist, the founder of TECHmIT Africa and a curator of a collective called ‘ghetto silience.’ The firm seeks to accelerate technological resilience in underserved communities in Africa. In an interview with MOYOSORE SALAMI, he speaks on the significant role technology played in shaping politics today

What are some of the most significant ways technology is shaping politics today?

Technology is fundamentally changing the way politics is done today. One of the most significant ways technology is shaping politics is through the use of social media platforms. Social media has become an integral part of political campaigns and a powerful tool for engaging with constituents. Additionally, data analytics and machine learning algorithms are being used to target specific voters and craft tailored messaging. This can lead to more effective campaigning but also raises concerns about manipulation and privacy.

What are some of the biggest challenges and concerns related to technology and politics?

One of the most significant challenges related to technology and politics is the issue of privacy. With the rise of big data and artificial intelligence, there is a growing concern about how personal data is being collected, used, and shared by political campaigns. There is also the issue of disinformation, where false or misleading information is spread through social media, leading to a polarised public discourse. Bias is another concern, as algorithms can perpetuate and amplify existing biases, resulting in discriminatory outcomes.

How can technology be used to promote democracy and civic engagement?

Technology can be used to promote democracy and civic engagement by facilitating access to information, enabling online voting, and fostering public discourse. Social media platforms can be used to promote political engagement and mobilise voters, while digital tools can make it easier for individuals to participate in the political process.

What are some potential solutions to the challenges posed by the intersection of tech and politics?

The intersection of technology and politics poses several challenges that require innovative solutions. One potential solution is increased transparency and accountability for tech companies, particularly in their handling of personal data and use of algorithms. This can be achieved through regulation, such as the GDPR in the EU, or through industry self-regulation. Another solution is to promote digital literacy and critical thinking skills among the public to combat disinformation and online manipulation.

What role should the government play in regulating social media and other tech platforms?

Regarding the role of government in regulating social media and other tech platforms, there is a need for balanced and informed policymaking. Governments should ensure that tech companies uphold ethical standards and protect users’ privacy and data, while also balancing free speech and innovation. It is crucial to strike a balance between protecting users and promoting innovation.

How do you see emerging technologies like AI and blockchain changing the way we live and work?

Emerging technologies like AI and blockchain have the potential to revolutionise the way we live and work. AI can automate repetitive tasks and enable more personalised experiences, while blockchain can enhance security and transparency in transactions. However, these technologies also raise concerns about job displacement, privacy, and ethical considerations around AI development and deployment. I believe we can get the best out of these technologies and understand how to regulate them better with time.

Cybersecurity is becoming an increasingly important concern for individuals and businesses alike. What are some of the most pressing cybersecurity issues that we need to be aware of?

Some of the most pressing cybersecurity issues we need to be aware of include data breaches, ransomware attacks, and phishing scams. These attacks can compromise personal data and financial information, causing significant harm to individuals and businesses alike. It is crucial to stay informed about cybersecurity threats and take proactive measures to protect ourselves and our organisations.

With the rise of remote work and the gig economy, how do you see technology shaping the future of work?

Technology is transforming the future of work by enabling remote work, freelancing, and the gig economy. With the rise of digital platforms, individuals can work from anywhere and take on projects that align with their skills and interests. Working in the future will be more of “experience” than “employment” with the rise of more distributed systems technologies. Global collaboration will continue to increase and distributed team systems at organisations will become mainstream. However, this also raises concerns about job security, income inequality, and the need for new policies and regulations to protect workers’ rights.

Do you think technology can be used to address some of the world’s challenges such as climate change, inequality?

Technology can certainly be used to address some of the world’s challenges, including climate change and inequality. For example, AI and machine learning can help optimise energy consumption and reduce waste, while blockchain can enable transparent and secure transactions in the fight against corruption and inequality. However, technology is not a silver bullet, and it needs to be complemented by broader policy and societal changes.

What is your advice for young people who are interested in pursuing a career in technology?

For young people interested in pursuing a career in technology, my advice would be to stay curious and keep learning. Technology is constantly evolving, and it is essential to stay up-to-date with the latest developments and trends. Building a strong foundation in computer science, mathematics, and critical thinking will provide a solid base for a career in technology. It is also crucial to develop soft skills, such as communication and teamwork, as technology often requires collaboration across different domains and disciplines.

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Opposition on wild goose chase, Gov. Abiodun’s reelection is a product of a heartwarming performance — Dennis Ogunnaike

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In this interview by Bankole Taiwo, the Special Assistant to Gov Dapo Abiodun on Technology Innovation and Strategy, Mr Dennis Akinwale Ogunnaike speaks on the second coming of Gov Abiodun, the commitment of the present administration to use ICT to revolutionise governance and empower the citizens among other topical issues trailing last governorship election in the state. Excerpts.

Let’s have a bit of yourself

I am Dennis Akinwale Ogunnaike, a native of Erinlu in Ward 2 of Odogbolu  Local Government Area  of Ogun State but I took my ancestral lineage from Mobalufon and my maternal roots from Iperu Akesan. I have been with Gov. Dapo Abiodun since 2013 handling communication and other ICT needs for him like database management and web development among others. I started with him as a volunteer and this year makes it a decade that this great lover of humanity whose commitment to empowering the youth remains irrevocable, that is, His Excellency, Prince Dapo Abiodun has taken me in as one of his children and he has practically been everything and more to me; a good father, mentor and performance coach, just as he is to many of us around him.

During his campaign for Ogun East Senatorial seat in 2015, I was there helping with the communication aspect of the campaign but when it didn’t go through because God was actually preparing him for this present task of leading the state, Prince Dapo Abiodun brought me into his company, Heyden Petroleum where I worked on specialised projects  deploying surveillance solutions and managing key ICT infrastructure projects. Actually my journey into ICT started during my secondary school days at Adeola Odutola, Ijebu-Ode. I found out that I had keen interest in computers when we got our computer labs in the early 90s, it was a new phenomenon at that time and that attracted my interest so much. I was a school prefect so I had unfettered access to the Laboratory where I would spend hours with the college instructors.

While preparing for admission into the university where I intended to study medicine because I had great O’Level results and the thinking among my circle of friends with good results was to become Medical Doctors. However, it was at this point that there was this long strike by the Academic Staff Union of Universities (ASUU), so I decided to enroll for Diploma programme in Computer Engineering organised by The Bespoke ICT Institute, an international organisation in the year 2002. The course covers ICT infrastructure management, Hardware Installation and maintenance, surveillance system, CCTV, fire alarms, quite extensive programme. I later went to University of Lagos, like I have said earlier, for me and my friends who were actually doing very fine in our studies at that time, we had As and high hopes and our dream was to study Medicine, unfortunately my JAMB scores was three marks less or so, so I eventually studied Biological sciences majoring in Ecotoxicology and Environmental Pollution Management at the University of Lagos. Alongside, I equally continued my training in ICT, I was taking the advanced courses covering web development and I worked part time on ICT projects for clients while in school, by the time I finished, I had developed keen interest in government probably because of my experience working with some senior colleagues on certain government owned projects.

Upon graduation, I had my NYSC done at Oke-Ila Orangun in Osun State with Oba Dokun Abolarin, the Orangun of Okeila whom we still maintain close contact after many years. Let me also add that I was the Overall Best Corp Member and Winner of State and National Honours for the Service Year during my NYSC.

I have had opportunities to work extensively on policy research and community relations and I was nominated for a development knowledge facilitation training organized by the United Nations Development Programme – UNDP.

Slightly before then I had been actively involved in campus politics as a member of Students Union and Students Representatives Council. I also convened the National Youth Economic Empowerment Summit in 2010 so with all that experience put together, I realised there is a place for technology use in governance if we must bridge so many gaps. So, I got so much involved in research of using ICT to better governance and help solve a number of challenges in public space. I was particular about using ICT to empower the youths, I attended further trainings at the FRCN Training school in 2013 and returned to Unilag for my Master Degree in Public and International Affairs Administration in 2013 and was working on some side projects with the Lagos State Government, I had done similar tasks with the Osun State Government during the tenure of Engr Rauf Aregbesola. So I have always kept my hands busy, It was in the course of all of these that I met my hardworking boss, Prince Dapo Abiodun in 2013 and he gave me his platform to further find expressions for my talents and interests. When God did it for us in 2019, the governor deemed it fit to appoint me as his Special Assistant in the Office of The Governor. I will eternally be grateful to him for the privilege to serve.

So, what has been the success story of this administration as far as ICT development is concerned?

Well, after the inauguration of the Governor in 2019, he told us he wanted to hit the ground running using ICT to revolutionise governance in the state and empower the teeming youthful population. He there and then said he wanted an implementable plan within his first 100 days in office. So, from the word go, Oga knew what he wanted and he wasn’t mincing words about the huge role of technology in his determined bid to enhance the prosperity of the state at all fronts. This was how we came up with the jobs portal which has been largely successful in giving the government an overview of job seekers vis a vis the available opportunities at any given time within the state. We also came up with the TechHub at Kobape, opposite the Judiciary Complex, essentially to save the moribund model school built but abandoned by the last administration from total decay, the Hub has played host to over 20,000 people who have been trained and they cut across all strata of the society. We have seen quite many who have been able to develop some apps there too, that place is playing a very huge role in empowering our youths. You see kids of 8 to 12 years coming to the TechHub learning coding, designing games, websites  and the likes. One thing the Governor is also doing exceedingly well is in the provision of ICT infrastructure across the length and breadth of the state, you can see the fibre optic cables being laid across the state, just look out of your window when traveling, you will see the men working, the Governor’s dream is to ensure that once you are in Ogun State, you have access to unhindered internet. The passion with which this is being done is first of its kind, these are parts of what the government of Gov Abiodun will be delivering in the second term. Plans are underway to have the TechHub at the remaining Senatorial districts of Ogun East and West, so our eyes have been on the ball so to say.

There are other ICT driven initiatives of Government like the DigiClass, which kept our students engaged during the ravaging Covid -19 pandemic, the OLAMS system deployed for Land Administration, Education Management Systems, The Courts Management Systems even in Health and Agriculture, there is not a single sector that has not received the digitisation injection of the Governor.

How do you see the last governorship in the state?

Well, I had a custom built feedback system where I aggregate information from the 236 Wards in the state that had given me a hint of what is likely to be the outcome of the governorship election. This has a lot to do with the research that I carried out between 2021-2022, I went across the 236 Wards, interacted with different focus groups so it is the aggregate of these views that formed the foundation of my report which tilted towards the governor coming back for the second term. Yes, the contest might be keen but the good works of the Governor in almost four years will stand him out and so it happened exactly that way. From my interactions with the media before the election, I have always maintained that the second term of Gov Abiodun was not in any way threatened. Of course we have reports of some set of people doing all soughts to undermine the last governorship election, engaging in vote buying and all that but the people still spoke with their votes affirming their support for the second term of the governor. So, there’s no case of stolen mandate anywhere, rather the opposition was rejected at the poll because of the sterling performance of Mr. Governor in his first term. As we speak in all 20 local government areas of the state, there is not a single one that has not recieved the good works of Gov. Dapo Abiodun, it’s either the projects there are ongoing or completed. This wasn’t the case under the immediate past government where development were visibly concentrated in certain areas of the state. The Governor has been very strategic in delivering good governance to the people of Ogun State, steadily implementing his ISEYA agenda cutting across road construction, qualitative healthcare, education, housing, agriculture, youth development among others.  He might not be someone given to standing on the rooftop and be shouting I have done this and done that because he believes that he was elected into office to do those things, so why the noise again?

So in a nutshell, what does the Governor’s second coming mean to Ogun people?

I must first of all thank the people of Ogun State for speaking in unison with their votes to have Gov Dapo Abiodun for another four years. It shows that they are quite intelligent and appreciate the good works of the governor in the last four years. Definitely, the second coming of Gov Abiodun means continuation of the good works across all the sectors. Look at the road from Ilishan to Ago Iwoye that passes through the Campus of the Olabisi Onabanjo University into Ago Iwoye that was completely abandoned and was endangering the lives of many of our students that have recieved the magic wand of the Governor, and the remarkable Agbara-Atan-Lusada main Arterial express way in Ogun West that are under construction, the 2nd Term of the Governor will certainly witness the completion of these projects. How about the world class International Agro-Cargo Airport which is capable of generating over 25,000 jobs. Recall that Mr Bayo Ogunlesi, son of the renowned first Professor of Medicine, Prof Theophilus Ogunlesi who was buried at almost 100 about two weeks ago, was briefly at the airport to see things for himself. Mr Bayo Ogunlesi is the owner of Gatwick Airport, London and many others in the world. He was so fascinated with the project that he bowed for the governor saying that he had not seen such a huge airport done within such a time frame. So, this huge project will begin to bear fruits in the second term couple with more houses, schools, roads, hospitals, so much more empowerment for our youths, so much consolidation on the good works of last four years because we have a governor that is not joking with the business of taking our dear state to greater heights.

Given all kinds of talks around Tinubu’s presidency, what do you think the incoming government at the centre will look like?

Fortunately, I served as the Co-ordinating Secretary of the Jagaban Army in the state, that is the APC National Youths Campaign Council foot soldiers. You see, I grew up in Lagos, I went to the University of Lagos and I am very aware of all the magic wands of our President-elect, Asiwaju Bola Ahmed Tinubu when he was Governor of Lagos State between 1999 and 2007. Before his tenure, Lagos was a very chaotic environment to commute back then, but with strong political will and being a manager of resource par excellence, Lagos began to wear a new look. The hospitals and schools took new shapes, the security started improving, how about the environmental and waste management initiatives? There were places you can’t pass by then without your handkerchief covering your nose until Asiwaju came. I mean, we saw a new commitment to give Lagos the status of that mega city and centre of excellence. I can go on and on. There’s no doubting the fact that Asiwaju Bola Ahmed Tinubu himself is the symbolism of modern governance that is solely committed to giving humanity the very best. Here is a master political strategist and astute administrator who knows how to get good brains to assist in delivering good governance to the people.

But some people say he is old?

Well, his age has nothing to do with what is on ground, ultimately because he would not govern alone, I have the confidence that he would assemble a competent team with whom he would implement his policies and programme. I tell you we have gotten a good opportunity to lift the country higher and expand its frontiers in the next four years, renewable by another four. I am optimistic that this is the best moment Nigerians have been waiting for and we shall all be living witnesses of a more prosperous, economically viable, stronger and united Nigeria under Asiwaju Bola Ahmed Tinubu.

The opposition in the state, particularly, the Peoples Democratic Party (PDP) is not convinced that your party won the last governorship election and had said that the victory party would be for a while, saying that they will soon reclaim the mandate before the tribunal, what did you say to this?

Talk is said to be cheap and you can see that I was just laughing when you asked this question because once you are sinking like the opposition in the state, you want to grab at anything and hold on to anything in sight. They are only giving their followers a false hope because the truth is that Gov Abiodun won the last governorship election squarely. It is the people’s mandate that will last another four years by the special grace of God.

I sincerely wish the opposition will cooperate with the Governor to further develop the state rather than embarking on another exercise in futility. The Governor has always thrown his arms wide open for the everyone with meaningful ideas to bring same forward for the greater good of our state, but if they choose to embark on another share waste of resources and productive time, goodluck to them but I am confident in God that this DA mandate of 2023 to 2027 remains unshakable! Though the election came with its own perculiarities, the truth will always remain the truth and books don’t lie, Gov Dapo Abiodun won the last governorship election by dint of hardwork, the gambling opposition people are only on a wild goose chase.

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